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Second, Goku and Vegeta have absorbed god ki into their base form. If you actually read what I wrote, you'll see that I specifically mention how characters like G.Frieza and Hit were able to combat and even defeat the two saiyans despite having no god ki.
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First off, nowhere did I say that anyone needed god ki to do anything. I saw it as a discussion, not an argument. I don't know why you're getting all pissy about this. And of course god ki doesn't automatically make you invincible to regular ki, otherwise how would Golden Frieza have been able to damage SSB Goku? Or Hit be able to dominate both Goku and Vegeta? He just put up a better fight and actually landed blows. Beerus saying that Vegeta was more "entertaining" than Goku doesn't necessarily mean he was stronger.
#Super saiyan god vs blue movie
Roshi's statement in the movie that Vegeta surpassed Goku is never said in the anime. There is a difference of 4x between SSJ2 and 3, anger wouldn't push him beyond that. Besides, SSJ3 Goku could not even hit Beerus and there is no way in hell that an SSJ2 Vegeta is stronger than SSJ3 Goku. Vegeta's rage powerup in the anime is a lot more underwhelming compared to the one in the movie. Also, there have been a few changes from the movie to the anime. His fight with Vegeta was the same as Goku's he wasn't taking it seriously at all and at the end he wondered if he was the SSJG. 100%īy damage, do you mean the small scratches that appeared on his body? By that logic, Bulma also damaged Beerus.
#Super saiyan god vs blue full
In-universe, unless it's established that they've been lying about it actually being their full power, 100% has always meant just that. Without having some additional transformation to him, which hasn't ever been stated or suggested, if Beerus's statement about having been at 70% was accurate (and not a lie), then he legitimately only had 30% left to go before he'd reach his limit. There's never been any situation showing otherwise, so I don't understand where you're coming from saying that 100% (when proven to be true) hasn't meant just that. He can't push past 100% at all, so his maximum is that 100%. That 50% is half of all the power he has available to him. Then, when he fought Goku, he used 50% of his full power. The situation with Beerus would be like Freeza, on Namek (thus removing any Golden Freeza business) appearing initially in his final form, not in any of his earlier forms, and using a small fraction of his power the entire time. They've all done that.īecause Freeza's final form isn't his 100% power normally, and he never said or suggested as much. Everyone always exceeds their "Final" form. You should know that especially since this is DBZ. You don't understand because you think 100% is final. SSB could possibly content with Beerus at 100% but Beerus can obviously exceed his base and get even stronger. That's how Beerus saying he was at 70% can stay relevant. Say Goku went SSJ? He'd go from something like 100% to imma just throw out a random number 150%.
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Meaning his natural NATURAL strength is when he's at 100%. I come from a video game based off DBZ that uses full power as the number 100%. Imma chop it up to you since you can't comprehend it.īase Goku is him at 100% of his full power. Frieza was at his final form and he got stronger. So your rebuttal wasn't really a good one. So you mean to tell me that when he saw Goku go SSJ? He didn't go to his 100% form? Their base form is their strongest aka final form. We reserve the right to remove submissions at our discretion. When creating a topic to discuss new spoilers, put a warning in the title, and keep the title itself spoiler free.
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